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lee dykes. we simply don't know. at this point it's pure speculation. i am sure we will get an earful at the press conference that is up coming. >> one possibility there could have been some information i am parted in the conf-- imparted i conversation that would let the child know something was happening or he could move or maybe they didn't want to let the suspect know. >> anything is possible at this point. it would be pure speculation. i think i want to wait until the authorities can confirm it at the news conference. >> is there any reason -- i assume this press conference is supposed to be at the top of the hour eastern. it is now 16, 17 minutes after the hour. is there any reason to assume something is going on that has held up the press conference? >> it's not uncommon through out this ordeal that the press conferences are scheduled and it occurs perhaps half an hour or even later than it was initially scheduled. i think law enforcement is lining up that you are ducks getting the story s
lee dykes. we simply don't know. at this point it's pure speculation. i am sure we will get an earful at the press conference that is up coming. >> one possibility there could have been some information i am parted in the conf-- imparted i conversation that would let the child know something was happening or he could move or maybe they didn't want to let the suspect know. >> anything is possible at this point. it would be pure speculation. i think i want to wait until the...
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lee dykes. my whole family has. many nights we were around and praying for jimmy lee dykes and for ethan. >> swat teams rescued ethan monday. dykes was killed. he is glad his father was driving the because he had the strength for what needed to be done. >> the search is on for a man who kidnapped and sexually assault aid teenager on the way to school in northeast d.c. police released the sketch today. the 16-year-old victim says she was attacked walking on nanny helen boroughs avenue last week. the guy grabbed her and forced her into an suv. drove a short distance and groped her before let herring go. tonight there is an arrest in a brazen armed robbery that has detectives working to see. there might be a connection to another crime. we showed you surveillance video from the frederick jewelry store last night. a man driving by saw what was happening and flagged down police. one of the suspects was arrested in d.c. this morning. arlington police say they're investigating whether this case might b
lee dykes. my whole family has. many nights we were around and praying for jimmy lee dykes and for ethan. >> swat teams rescued ethan monday. dykes was killed. he is glad his father was driving the because he had the strength for what needed to be done. >> the search is on for a man who kidnapped and sexually assault aid teenager on the way to school in northeast d.c. police released the sketch today. the 16-year-old victim says she was attacked walking on nanny helen boroughs...
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there's a mobile home where jimmy lee dykes lived. they have to look through those papers and determine what was happening and why this happened. the red storage unit, the bunker, and one other element. there will be a news conference here in about 25 minutes. the superintendent of dale county schools will speak about having this kid back home and the death of that school bus driver, that started all of this about a week ago, ashleigh. >> chris lawrence and victor blackwell for us this morning on this incredible story. thank you. now that the standoff is over, what about eethsen, the little boy? tonight john walsh is going to join anderson cooper to share his experience on what they might be doing to try to cope with the kind of trauma that entire family and what they are going through, tonight 8:00 eastern right here on cnn. and now i want to take you to austria, breaking news, american skier lindsey vonn is said to have suffered a complex knee injury in a very bad crash on the slopes during a race there. it happened in the opening d
there's a mobile home where jimmy lee dykes lived. they have to look through those papers and determine what was happening and why this happened. the red storage unit, the bunker, and one other element. there will be a news conference here in about 25 minutes. the superintendent of dale county schools will speak about having this kid back home and the death of that school bus driver, that started all of this about a week ago, ashleigh. >> chris lawrence and victor blackwell for us this...
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is there any relationship between this jimmy lee dykes and the child that he kidnapped? >> authorities have not told us anything about that relationship, if there is any. we still don't know. that is one of the many details we are waiting to hear. exactly why it is that this would happen. we do know that jimmy lee dykes was scheduled to go into court on wednesday. >> judge jeanine: for what? >> for some -- he was scheduled to go there for menacing with neighbors. lots of the neighbors we talked to people here as well as in the community said he wasn't the ideal neighbor. people called him just a mean man. he is very protective of his property from what neighbors have said. any time someone or an animal would get close to the property lines he would either fire a gun into the air or become very aggressive and near violent with them. so that s what he was going to be in court for on wednesday. we don't know if that is related. authorities have not said. again we are still waiting to find out many of these things and frankly many of them we probably won't find out until aft
is there any relationship between this jimmy lee dykes and the child that he kidnapped? >> authorities have not told us anything about that relationship, if there is any. we still don't know. that is one of the many details we are waiting to hear. exactly why it is that this would happen. we do know that jimmy lee dykes was scheduled to go into court on wednesday. >> judge jeanine: for what? >> for some -- he was scheduled to go there for menacing with neighbors. lots of the...
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on o that road and that angered jimmy lee dykes. we do not know specifically the motive, but we know that this man was supposed to be in court on wednesday for a charge of menacing for shooting at another neighbor, the neighbor says, because he damaged that road. again, a man who's very serious about property rights. the question here is did that turning onto the road every day anger jimmy lee dykes. we're told that charles pollin actually took eggs and jelly to dykes to try to make amends for his anger over driving over the road. tuesday afternoon when that bus stopped again, that is when we're told by authorities dykes went on with a gun, demanded two children, pollin put himself in front of as many children as he could, save 2g 1 of them, but that 5-year-old, the krgt kindergarten, was snatched, dragged into a hole and they've been there for five days, miguel. >> victor, if you would stick around for a few minutes when that presser starts up. >> reporter: we've got them walking up right behind us now. sheriff olson, trooper kevin
on o that road and that angered jimmy lee dykes. we do not know specifically the motive, but we know that this man was supposed to be in court on wednesday for a charge of menacing for shooting at another neighbor, the neighbor says, because he damaged that road. again, a man who's very serious about property rights. the question here is did that turning onto the road every day anger jimmy lee dykes. we're told that charles pollin actually took eggs and jelly to dykes to try to make amends for...
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jimmy lee dykes kidnapped the little boy last tuesday. yesterday, law enforcement officials raided the bunker. >> a 7-day standoff came to an abrupt end when the fbi stormed an underground bunker here in rural alabama. officers raided the bunker and rescued the boy within seconds after negotiations with his captor, jimmy lee dykes, broke down. dykes was confirmed dead, though no details were given. the boy known only as ethan was described as physically unharmed and taken to a local hospital. ethan's ordeal began last tuesday when dykes boarded his school bus and demanded two boys between the ages of six and eight. the driver, chuck poland, blocked his path and was shot dead. dykes then grabbed ethan. the 65-year-old vietnam veteran was described by neighbors as an angry man.he patrolled his property with a gun. he was facing a court case for threatening neighbors. he was said by one to have beaten her dog to death. during the siege, negotiators kept talking to dykes. he allowed them to pass toys, food, and medicine through a ventilation
jimmy lee dykes kidnapped the little boy last tuesday. yesterday, law enforcement officials raided the bunker. >> a 7-day standoff came to an abrupt end when the fbi stormed an underground bunker here in rural alabama. officers raided the bunker and rescued the boy within seconds after negotiations with his captor, jimmy lee dykes, broke down. dykes was confirmed dead, though no details were given. the boy known only as ethan was described as physically unharmed and taken to a local...
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they only informed us that the suspect 65-year-old jimmy lee dykes is dead. they had been trying to negotiate through out this ordeal which was about to go into a 7th day through out the ordeal. it sounded like negotiations were peaceful. mr. dykes allowing them to supply comfort supplies to the little boy. supplies such as medication, snacks, such as cheez-its and toys such as a red hot wheels car he requested yesterday. but today although they did not elabora elaborate, authorities say the negotiations started to go south and that is when they decided to storm the bunker. listen to what they said at a news conference moments ago. >> at approximately 3:12 this afternoon fbi agents safely recovered the child who has been held hostage for nearly a week. within the past 24-hours negotiations deteriorated and mr. dykes was observed holding a gun. at this point fbi agents fearing the child was in eminent danger entered the bunker and rescued the child. the child appears physically unharmed and is being treated at a local hospital. the subject is deceased. >> the
they only informed us that the suspect 65-year-old jimmy lee dykes is dead. they had been trying to negotiate through out this ordeal which was about to go into a 7th day through out the ordeal. it sounded like negotiations were peaceful. mr. dykes allowing them to supply comfort supplies to the little boy. supplies such as medication, snacks, such as cheez-its and toys such as a red hot wheels car he requested yesterday. but today although they did not elabora elaborate, authorities say the...
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his kidnapper jimmy lee dykes died during the raid. he boarded the ethan's school bus last week and shot and killed the bus driver, charles poland. after negotiations deteriorated, the fbi went in for the rescue. he's okay, at least physically. >> this little boy. he has been through a lot, endured a lot. and by the grace of god, he's -- you know, he's okay. >> he is doing fine. he's laughing, joking, playing, eating. the things that you would expect a normal 5 to 6-year-old young man to do. >> i want to bring in pa tisha saunders, a clinical forensic psychologist. we heard that investigator say he is doing well. we heard is he laughing, joking, eating and coloring, but does that paint a real picture of how is he emotionally? >> great question. and it's a good sign prognostically. the most important thing that we want to do with anybody who has suffered trauma, especially extreme trauma like ethan suffered, is to provide a feeling of safety, and the more normal and interactive he is, especially because he has asperger's syndrome, the b
his kidnapper jimmy lee dykes died during the raid. he boarded the ethan's school bus last week and shot and killed the bus driver, charles poland. after negotiations deteriorated, the fbi went in for the rescue. he's okay, at least physically. >> this little boy. he has been through a lot, endured a lot. and by the grace of god, he's -- you know, he's okay. >> he is doing fine. he's laughing, joking, playing, eating. the things that you would expect a normal 5 to 6-year-old young...
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jimmy lee dykes holding a 5-year-old boy in an underground bunker. dykes allowed delivery of comfort items for the boy. >>> one inflew wenshal gun control group are targeting their efforts on washington. bought ad time during the super bowl to push for universal background checks for all gun purchases. here's just part of that commercial. >> the nra once supported background checks. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. no loopholes. >> the ad will only run in the washington, d.c., area. >>> the man behind the etch-a-sketch has died. 86-year-old andre cassagnes passed away. he created the classic drawing toy in his garage in 1950. it made its debut in 1959. >>> we told you last week it was so cold th officials in one new jersey town
jimmy lee dykes holding a 5-year-old boy in an underground bunker. dykes allowed delivery of comfort items for the boy. >>> one inflew wenshal gun control group are targeting their efforts on washington. bought ad time during the super bowl to push for universal background checks for all gun purchases. here's just part of that commercial. >> the nra once supported background checks. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for...
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we don't know how that's being given to ethan and jimmy lee dykes. that's one of the questions we asked. we asked how that happened and one of the questions we asked, that was not answered. authorities here keeping a lot of the details to themselves because they do not want to agitate, as they tell us, jimmy lee dykes. the most recent communication that we had with authorities is that they say the line of communication is open both with jimmy lee dykes and they're ready to speak with him, as they say, whenever he's ready to talk. also with the parents of this 5-year-old boy ethan. they are getting updates every hour on the hour and we also heard from a woman named michelle riley, who lived next to the family. black to mourn the death of the bus driver in this case, but also with red and blue, the school colors here in dale county and she says that these parents are holding up and the mother is ready to hold her baby and bring him home. here's what she said at a vigil about ethan. >> we can fight and push through and prayer and that our prayers are go
we don't know how that's being given to ethan and jimmy lee dykes. that's one of the questions we asked. we asked how that happened and one of the questions we asked, that was not answered. authorities here keeping a lot of the details to themselves because they do not want to agitate, as they tell us, jimmy lee dykes. the most recent communication that we had with authorities is that they say the line of communication is open both with jimmy lee dykes and they're ready to speak with him, as...
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jimmy lee dykes, a retired truck drive history moved to the area five years ago. police say tuesday he boarded a school bus near his home, killed the driver, took the 5-year-old boy at gunpoint. victor, i know you have learned something about the connection between dykes and the bus driver. >> reporter: erin, that bus driver charles poland drove that route right down 231 at midland city, alabama, every day, and every day the route ended right at the road that leads up to jimmy lee dykes' property, the man inside that bunker. we've said as we've learned from neighbors the past few days that jimmy lee dykes is very protective of his property, they say he would walk his property line with a gun in one hand and a flashlight in the other and shout at anything or any animal that walked across his property. each day we're told by a man who's known the bus driver about 20 years, he would turn that bus on the road at the end of the road, just the tip of it, at jimmy lee dykes' property and that made dykes angry. and he would shout at the man and the bus. what we're also to
jimmy lee dykes, a retired truck drive history moved to the area five years ago. police say tuesday he boarded a school bus near his home, killed the driver, took the 5-year-old boy at gunpoint. victor, i know you have learned something about the connection between dykes and the bus driver. >> reporter: erin, that bus driver charles poland drove that route right down 231 at midland city, alabama, every day, and every day the route ended right at the road that leads up to jimmy lee dykes'...
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they only informed us that the suspect 65-year-old jimmy lee dykes is dead. they had been trying to negotiate through out this ordeal which was about to go into a 7th day through out the ordeal. it sounded like negotiations were peaceful. mr. dykes allowing them to supply comfort supplies to the little boy. supplies such as medication, snacks, such as cheez-its and toys such as a red hot wheels car he requested yesterday. but today although they did not elabora elaborate, authorities say the negotiations started to go south and that is when they decided to storm the bunker. listen to what they said at a news conference moments ago. >> at approximately 3:12 this afternoon fbi agents safely recovered the child who has been held hostage for nearly a week. within the past 24-hours negotiations deteriorated and mr. dykes was observed holding a gun. at this point fbi agents fearing the child was in eminent danger entered the bunker and rescued the child. the child appears physically unharmed and is being treated at a local hospital. the subject is deceased. >> the
they only informed us that the suspect 65-year-old jimmy lee dykes is dead. they had been trying to negotiate through out this ordeal which was about to go into a 7th day through out the ordeal. it sounded like negotiations were peaceful. mr. dykes allowing them to supply comfort supplies to the little boy. supplies such as medication, snacks, such as cheez-its and toys such as a red hot wheels car he requested yesterday. but today although they did not elabora elaborate, authorities say the...
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you see this white trailer, that's where we're told jimmy lee dykes lives. next to it, a red container used for storage. up in the corner, this is the bunker. we're told it is about 15 by 15, ten to 12 feet high with cinder block steps along the side. and bricks lining the walls. there is no mortar because this thick red alabama clay keeps everything together. and because he was a survivalist, we do not know how long he could stay in this bunker. we're told, the good news here, there is no reason to believe that this boy has been harmed. now, you ask about the relationship between dykes and this victim, charles poland. we're told that, again, it comes down to the road and the bus, and the bus ended its route every day at the end of the road that leads up to jimmy lee dykes' property. listen to a friend, robert smith. >> i think he was anti-government, you know, mentality was that he just considered a school bus or anything to deal with the government as a threat. that was infringing on his rights, you know, his property, if a tire got over on his land that w
you see this white trailer, that's where we're told jimmy lee dykes lives. next to it, a red container used for storage. up in the corner, this is the bunker. we're told it is about 15 by 15, ten to 12 feet high with cinder block steps along the side. and bricks lining the walls. there is no mortar because this thick red alabama clay keeps everything together. and because he was a survivalist, we do not know how long he could stay in this bunker. we're told, the good news here, there is no...
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>> do you know anything more about jimmy lee dykes background? anything about what may have triggered him to shoot the bus driver then take the boy hostage. >> right, the motive, those are the questions we don't have answers to. we are learning more about the history, where he was in the service. he was decorated. since had run-ins with the law and people here describe him in negative terms as paranoid a survivalist, antigovernment type. no motive at this point. i spoke to the sheriff a little while ago and don't know if he has made demands yet. >> hope the boy is safe in the hands of jimmy lee dykes. thank you. >>> president obama heads to minnesota to push for new gun measures. tonight controversial television ad is about to air in the d.c. region. lauren demarco has more. >> reporter: a group of mayors lead by michael bloomberg is out with a brief but clear message for congress. a call for background checks on all gun sales delivered in the form of a television commercial airing during the super bowl. >> we have to do everything we can to get
>> do you know anything more about jimmy lee dykes background? anything about what may have triggered him to shoot the bus driver then take the boy hostage. >> right, the motive, those are the questions we don't have answers to. we are learning more about the history, where he was in the service. he was decorated. since had run-ins with the law and people here describe him in negative terms as paranoid a survivalist, antigovernment type. no motive at this point. i spoke to the...
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lee dykes. you know, this did end with one person dead, that suspect, mr. dykes. tell me, what do you know about him and have you been in touch -- has anyone been in touch with any of his family? >> that's been one thing i have been wondering. we had conversation with several folks. i have not had confirmation he had family in this part of the country or any at all to be honest with you. >> pastor senn, thank you for joining us. martin, i'm going to throw it back to you. >> thanks so much. we're hearing -- we've learned that the hostage taking there in midland, alabama, was resolved at 3:12 this afternoon. fbi agents safely recovered the child who had been held hostage for about a week. 24 hours of negotiations had deteriorated where mr. dykes was observed holding a gun. mr. dykes has since died. thank you so much for watching this afternoon. the child is safe. chris matthews and "hardball" is next. ♪ >>> welcome back to "hardball." as we pointed out in the past few weeks there are several sta
lee dykes. you know, this did end with one person dead, that suspect, mr. dykes. tell me, what do you know about him and have you been in touch -- has anyone been in touch with any of his family? >> that's been one thing i have been wondering. we had conversation with several folks. i have not had confirmation he had family in this part of the country or any at all to be honest with you. >> pastor senn, thank you for joining us. martin, i'm going to throw it back to you. >>...
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the kidnapper, jimmy lee dykes, was killed. two explosives were also found near the scene. sources reveal the fbi got a camera inside the bunker and made their move when jimmy lee dykes began carrying a gun. little ethan is back with his family and will celebrate his 6th birthday tomorrow. >>> new questions to night about the partial blackout during the super bowl. and among those questions are when did officials know there could be problems in the stadium. and, whether enough was done ahead of time to prevent any issues. jim handley with a few answers. >> reporter: jim tonight we are learning there were concerns about a power everload at the super dome months before sunday's big game. tests done on electrical feeders inside the stadium show decay and chance of failure. super dome engineers shared this information with the state back in october. in december the state spent close to $600,000 to upgrade those decaying lines. the nfl tonight says they were aware of the upgrades and right now doesn't appear sunday's outage was connected to the repairs. another thing, officials
the kidnapper, jimmy lee dykes, was killed. two explosives were also found near the scene. sources reveal the fbi got a camera inside the bunker and made their move when jimmy lee dykes began carrying a gun. little ethan is back with his family and will celebrate his 6th birthday tomorrow. >>> new questions to night about the partial blackout during the super bowl. and among those questions are when did officials know there could be problems in the stadium. and, whether enough was done...
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he spoke tonight with erin burnett. >> jimmy lee dykes comes on to the bus. he hands a piece of paper to the bus driver. he stands up and puts himself between -- there's about 20 kids on the bus. this is an odd school bus. because of the rural area. you have kids from kindergarten to high school there. >> all ages. >> the littlest kids in the front. the older ones in the back. >> he says i'm going to need to take two kids. and charles albert poland, the bus driver, who has been through hostage training two years before, in case a gunman ever came on his bus. i'm sure he never imagined it would be somebody he knew, said i'm responsible for these children and you can't have them. over that four minutes you hear jimmy lee dykes saying, i'm going to kill you if you get in the way here. as he's trying to take the kids he says, i'm going to shoot you. i'm going to shoot you. poland is frightened, but he stands his ground. and then dykes shoots him, and it's ethan the 5-year-old who's sitting there in the front row. he takes ethan, the one child and heads to the bun
he spoke tonight with erin burnett. >> jimmy lee dykes comes on to the bus. he hands a piece of paper to the bus driver. he stands up and puts himself between -- there's about 20 kids on the bus. this is an odd school bus. because of the rural area. you have kids from kindergarten to high school there. >> all ages. >> the littlest kids in the front. the older ones in the back. >> he says i'm going to need to take two kids. and charles albert poland, the bus driver, who...
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jimmy lee dykes is the suspect. we've been informed by authorities there's been a major development in this case. that's about the only way they will classify what's happened. we have noted there's been some significant activity taking place on site. we saw two ambulances go and then leave the property. they didn't have their lights on. we've also seen clusters of authorities on site as well. all of this of course unusual from what weem been watching over the past several days. and then we've been told there's going to be a news conference and a fairly significant one in just a few minutes. there was a news conference that was held earlier today. it was by the local sheriff. and he insinuated for the first time there could be a motive to all this. listen to what he had to say. >> i can't really comment on anything specific. the communications, anything like that, that's been going on. what i can say generally is based on our discussion with mr. dykes, he feels like he has a story that's important to him. although it
jimmy lee dykes is the suspect. we've been informed by authorities there's been a major development in this case. that's about the only way they will classify what's happened. we have noted there's been some significant activity taking place on site. we saw two ambulances go and then leave the property. they didn't have their lights on. we've also seen clusters of authorities on site as well. all of this of course unusual from what weem been watching over the past several days. and then we've...
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jimmy lee dykes. we know his funeral will be on sunday, and we're told so many people are expected, it could not be held in a church here in town. that it actually has to be held in a physics center a few miles away. >> sounds like a very sweet guy. victor, there's been communication between authorities and this guy, dykes. how are they communicating? >> yeah, it's a really bizarre s setup. we're told there's a pvc pipe that is more than 30 feet long that goes from the road all the way down into the bunker. and that they speak through this pipe. again, we've been told there's no reason to believe the boy has been harmed, but there have not been many more details beyond that. local law enforcement has been keeping all of the details very close to the vest, but we know there is that pipe through which they're communicating. >> i appreciate the update. we're going to check back in if the situation changes. joining me now is joshua tucker who lives nearby and byron sage. josh, your grandmother lives right
jimmy lee dykes. we know his funeral will be on sunday, and we're told so many people are expected, it could not be held in a church here in town. that it actually has to be held in a physics center a few miles away. >> sounds like a very sweet guy. victor, there's been communication between authorities and this guy, dykes. how are they communicating? >> yeah, it's a really bizarre s setup. we're told there's a pvc pipe that is more than 30 feet long that goes from the road all the...
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so now this man, jimmy lee dykes, is dead, killed by an fbi team. his captive ethan -- we're withholding his last name -- is out of the hospital and said to be doing well. in a moment, what lies ahead for him. we'll talk with ed smart. he of course was lucky enough to be able to help his daughter elizabeth heal after being held captive for months. john walsh. "america's most wanted" is also going to join us. and we'll talk with the son of the heroic bus driver who died trying to stop the kidnapper. first though there's a lot more unfolding at this moment. martin savidge has the latest from the crime scene. marty, what are we learning? >> reporter: anderson, you were talking about both those photos and, now, the word of these explosive devices. we've been told all day long by authorities that one of the reasons why the public wasn't being allowed in the area was the concern for these explosive devices. now we learn there were two of them, one located inside the bunker, which would show you how dangerous it was the entire time for that young child and
so now this man, jimmy lee dykes, is dead, killed by an fbi team. his captive ethan -- we're withholding his last name -- is out of the hospital and said to be doing well. in a moment, what lies ahead for him. we'll talk with ed smart. he of course was lucky enough to be able to help his daughter elizabeth heal after being held captive for months. john walsh. "america's most wanted" is also going to join us. and we'll talk with the son of the heroic bus driver who died trying to stop...
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jimmy lee dykes was killed in the eration, we don't know by a blast, officer or if he killed himself. investigators praised ethan for being so brave. >> i have been off to the hospital. i have visited with ethan. he is doing fine. he is laughing, joking, playing, eating, and the things that you would expect a there manorral, 6-year-old young man to do. >> ethan is look frg waing forwo celebrating his birthday. tonight, president obama called director muler to compliment the work today and commended coordination between federal and local law enforcement. become to you. >> thank you. local care giver arrested for abuse inside a maryland group home. police say she attacked a disabled man and encouraged a rez didn resident to join in and fight caught on video. erica gonzalez from columbia, maryland, with some disturbing video. erica. >> doreen, at one point, in the video, the woman, the manager of this group home here in columbia, maryland even threatens to kill the victim. 57-year-old donna everett is out of jail after posting $100,000 bond charged with multiple counts off sacount s of a
jimmy lee dykes was killed in the eration, we don't know by a blast, officer or if he killed himself. investigators praised ethan for being so brave. >> i have been off to the hospital. i have visited with ethan. he is doing fine. he is laughing, joking, playing, eating, and the things that you would expect a there manorral, 6-year-old young man to do. >> ethan is look frg waing forwo celebrating his birthday. tonight, president obama called director muler to compliment the work...
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lee dykes. dykes was able to get off at least one shot at the agents who returned fire, killing him. then the agents quickly rescued his young hostage who amazingly, despite the blasts and gunfire was physically unharmed. dale county sheriff walley olson says, ultimately the decision to go was his. >> i'll be real honest with you, it was one of the hardest decisions i've made in my life. >> reporter: after the raid, authorities discovered two explosive dwee vices, including one in the bunker and another in the pvc pipe. explosives weren't the only unstable variable. there was dykes state of mind. neighbors describe the 65-year-old as a paranoid anti-government loner, fixated on a conspiracy involving horse racing. >> he used to keep notebooks of horse races. he always said that mafia run the horse races. >> reporter: sources close to the case say while talking to police from the bunker, dykes would ram bell on about his theory. he wanted to get his message out. >> mr. dykes feels like he has a s
lee dykes. dykes was able to get off at least one shot at the agents who returned fire, killing him. then the agents quickly rescued his young hostage who amazingly, despite the blasts and gunfire was physically unharmed. dale county sheriff walley olson says, ultimately the decision to go was his. >> i'll be real honest with you, it was one of the hardest decisions i've made in my life. >> reporter: after the raid, authorities discovered two explosive dwee vices, including one in...
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he spoke tonight with erin burnett. >> jimmy lee dykes comes on to the bus. he hands him a piece of paper. it's got instructions on it. he hands it to charlie the bus driver. and charlie poland stands up and puts himself between -- there was about 20 kids on the bus. this is an odd school bus because of the rural area. you have kids from kindergarten to high school there. >> all ages. >> the littlest kids sitting in the front. the older ones sitting in the back. and he said "i'm going to need to take two kids." and charles albert poland, the bus driver, who has been through hostage training two years before in case a gunman ever came on his bus, i'm sure he never imagined it would be somebody he knew, says, "i'm responsible for these children and you can't have them." and over that four minutes you hear jimmy lee dykes say "i'm going to kill you if you get in the way here." and as he's trying to take the kids he says, "i'm going to shoot you. i'm going to shoot you." and poland, you can tell on the videotape, is frightened, but he stands his ground. and then
he spoke tonight with erin burnett. >> jimmy lee dykes comes on to the bus. he hands him a piece of paper. it's got instructions on it. he hands it to charlie the bus driver. and charlie poland stands up and puts himself between -- there was about 20 kids on the bus. this is an odd school bus because of the rural area. you have kids from kindergarten to high school there. >> all ages. >> the littlest kids sitting in the front. the older ones sitting in the back. and he said...